Many nonprofit early adopters of Facebook set up groups as their organizational hubs because that was the only option. Later, Facebook Pages were introduced and many nonprofits have set these up as their institutional hubs. There has been some discussion in nonprofit forums, blogs, and listservs about the pros and cons of Facebook Pages versus Groups for nonprofits. So I tweeted Mari Smith who told me she had something in the works. Well, she just posted something and it rocks.
I also searched around for some additional advice on Facebook Pages and I've summarized the key points below:
Why have a Facebook Page?
Mari Smith suggests these key reasons:
- More people can find out about your organization because your Page gets indexed and is search able inside and outside of Facebook.
- Because the number of Fans you can have is unlimited (whereas the Friend limit is 5,000 on an individual profile).
- Activity on your Page helps increase “viral visibility” on Facebook.
- You can establish your brand even further.
I might also add that a Facebook Page will provide better analysis in terms of users, time online the time , demographics compared to a Facebook Group.
There was also a good post on Social Media Today by Collin Douma that looked at Best Practices for Facebook Fan Pages. It makes this point:
Although many users have joined brand pages advocating various messages, the average Facebook user doesn’t want content pushed to them, particularly contests or other promotional programs that don’t speak to their overall enthusiasm for a brand. These types of promotions can be supported on the Facebook Fan Page, but should not be the primary focus and should be housed in other digital arenas.
Successful communities on Facebook offer an attitude of openness, transparency and enthusiasm - not a technology platform for advertising.
As the chart above details, people who join Facebook Pages fall into three different profiles.
Mari Smith's post goes on to give you the step-by-steps for setting up a Facebook Page as well as some tips for success. And she made the screencast below - great for visual learners.
So, if you set up a Facebook group before there were Facebook pages and you are hoping to use Facebook for external marketing goals - then consider converting your group into a Facebook Page. The Facebook Page FAQ tells how Facebook can convert your group into a Page for you.
However, as Mari Smith notes, for optimal outreach you need both a group and a page. I'm hoping she will write a post that says why.
- Tim Davies - Facebook Pages vs Facebook Groups Pros/Cons
- Social Media Today, Best Practices for Facebook Pages
- Jeremiah Owyang - Testing Facebook Pages
- Jesse Stay - Ten Things You Didn't Know About Facebook
- Jesse Stay - What You Get From Facebook Pages Series
- App/Gap Blog - Should your business with Friends with Facebook? (analysis of using Facebook groups)
- Jenny Ambrozek, Ten Tips for Getting Business Value Out of Groups
- Heather Mansfield, Facebook Best Practices - Interview
- Shara Karasic, Setting Up A Facebook Page
- Facebook FAQ on Pages
If your nonprofit has a Facebook Page, what have you learned about what works? What doesn't work?
Hi Beth,
Good job on assembling this array of resources!! I'm sure we'll see a big surge in Facebook Pages over the coming months as more business user catch on to their power.
I'll be blogging more about Facebook's different tools and features specifically for business purposes - I would certainly love to see a mashup between Pages & Groups as each has good features but is incomplete, in my opinion. As my comedian buddy Baratunde Thurston calls the ideal mashups: "Grages" or "Proups." LOL!
Cheers,
Mari
@marismith
Posted by: Mari Smith | September 26, 2008 at 09:58 PM
Hi Beth,
So much info collated into a great post - only problem was that the 2nd and 3rd pictures/graphs don't show up on my computer - could you provide us some links?
Cheers,
Lou
Posted by: Lou Veyret | September 26, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Lou:
The YouTube Video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igLDVCywlls&eurl=http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2008/09/what-why-and-ho.html
The graphic for the fan page users is here:
http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/49304
Posted by: Beth Kanter | September 27, 2008 at 05:18 AM
Fabulous wrap up, Beth...I'm going to blog it for Shaping Youth too, as I only have a 'personal presence' for S.Y. there and haven't done the 'fan' bit OR the 'page' practice; I've just used it as an easy way to connect w/like-minded agents of change. This is SO helpful. I'm going to forward it to our GWLN.org global graduates too to see if they can 'post a page' and get the conversations global...THANKS!
Posted by: Amy Jussel | September 28, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Great post--thanks for the info! I haven't had time to check out the links yet but will definitely earmark this post for future reference.
We decided to go with pages rather than the groups for several reasons. Initially, the reason was simple--we didn't want to tie a group to a specific individual; we wanted it to be representative of the assocation. We are still working on our overall social media strategy and it remains to be seen to what extent we want to go with a more informal/personal versus a more formal/professional approach and decided that, for our demographic, probably more professional would be better.
We started with a page that specifically ties into one of our consumer awareness campaigns and are getting ready to launch an "offical" page for the association as a whole. The insights feature of the page we already have up (http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Listen-to-Your-Buds/29051114922) is giving us an idea of what demographic is expressing interest and already on Facebook, which will be helpful as we tailor our overall social media strategy. We are also looking into using the ad feature to get our message out to more Facebook users.
Posted by: Maggie McGary | September 30, 2008 at 07:15 AM
I am soooooo glad for this post! I spent goddess-knows-how-long trying to figure out how to build a FaceBook page. I am normally fairly savvy, so I felt like a complete idiot. Why does FB make it so hard?
A hundred thanks!
Posted by: Zan McColloch-Lussier | October 13, 2008 at 03:16 PM
Thanks for the tip about integrating a group into a page. Really useful!
Posted by: Steve Heyes | January 31, 2009 at 06:15 PM