Allan Benamer's NpTech Tag Meta Feed Digg Plig Collaborative Search Mashup

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While Allan has been in Vietnam celebrating the lunar New Year and eating exotic foods, he has still managed to get online, play with Pipes, and IM me about it.   People who can touch API's out there have been fooling around with trying to extract data from the  NpTech tag for analysis as well as think about ways that we can make the data that has been tagged more filtered via social search, collaborative filtering, and whatever else.  More importantly, have that filtered product available easily to those without API programming skills or a low-tolerance to information overload.

So, Allan takes us through a few options and explains here.

I admit that I don't understand some of the more technical stuff.  And, since I'm so much a visual learner I had to diagram what he was saying before I can understand it.   So, Allan, did I get it right?

Update:  See Ben's Comment over here.

Pointers To Context To All This

Deborah Finn's thoughts on the NpTech Tag Mashup

Michele Martin's NpTech Search

NpTech Tag Summary of Conversations:

Jan 26, 2006

If you couldn't make to the NpTech Conference call this week, there are notes here. Many useful observations and questions raised about how to analyze the tagging data we've collected and how to move from a folksonomy to a taxonomy.  We also discussed the aggregation and publishing side and some initial goals for the NPTech Community site.  Peter Campbell, who created the site, has moved the site it's new domain http://nptech.info - so stay tuned for more updates.

NpTech Conference Call Notes

January 19, 2007

Marnie Webb puts out a call for a call next wed, thurs, or friday to discuss in real time the issues that have surfaced around the NpTech Tag.   She proposes several different times, leave your preferences in the comments.   The proposed call agenda is here.  To catch up, read the summary here and to read the most recent thoughts -- see Gavin's newest post here and Emily's reflections here.

January 12, 2007

Summary of Cross-Blog Discussion on NpTech Tag

Gavin's Digital Dinner "Return to Beneath the Valley of MetaData"

Allan Benamer's "The NpTech Tag and Why It is Broken"

Comments

[eschipul]

I am not sure the average person would understand the graphic. For example the RSS icon is not clear to a newbie (I know cause I got burned on that one in a presentation recently).

Perhaps break it up like we explain search engines:
1) spider = consumption of info which in this case is manually specified by nptech tag
2) index = spiders retrieve but a different program chooses to store in the index or not. The corrollary here is the criteria of the pipe/lens/whatever.
3) query tool - this is the user interface part that is hopefully simple.

I dont know though. Typing this I may not be improving anything. Arrgh.

[abenamer]

Awesome job! That's pretty much how it works. I know the system LOOKS complicated but that's only because our needs are various. If we do it right, there will be four user roles for nptech, the contributor, the feed consumer, the editor and the researcher with RSS bookmarklets for the contributor, Pligg for the editors/consumers and Google CSE (manseo) for the researchers.

The vast majority of contributors will just be bookmarking away. They won't notice the difference. However, the editors and consumers will be using the pligg site to see what's new in the nptech world. The editors at that point can help sort out and filter all the items. The researchers are the people who can do all the crazy statistical analysis and mashups via Google CSE and simply by downloading all the data to their desktops. We won't hold the raw data back from them.